God doesn’t punish fornicators with sickness – Esu priest

Chairman, Osun State Board of Traditional Medicine, Chief Kayode Esuleke, tells FEMI MAKINDE in this interview that herbal drugs can cure meningitis, HIV and cancer

What is the cause of meningitis?

As herbal practitioners, (we believe) there are certain diseases that have natural and spiritual causes. As herbalists, we believe that meningitis is a spiritual attack. Hence, trying to treat it medically could be a waste of time. If you want to treat meningitis, which the Yoruba call yinrun-yinrun – that is, a disease that twists one’s neck and kills its victim within a couple of hours – it has to be through natural and spiritual means.

But does God punish people with meningitis because they have committed fornication?

God cannot be so daft. If you fornicate, that is your problem. Does it mean that the people in the northern states who were worst hit by meningitis committed the sin of fornication more than those in the South? I take Stout everyday but in the Quran it is said that anybody who takes just a spoonful of alcoholic drink will be punished for 21 days and I take like four bottles. Tell me how many spoons one can find in four bottles? That means the punishment for four bottles will be four years. God has no time for such rubbish. If you drink, get intoxicated and injure yourself, it is not God’s business. It is your problem.

What do you think can be done to stop the outbreak of meningitis?

Thank God somebody said the present vaccine is not effective against Type C meningitis that is in town now. Let them consult us at the Board of Traditional Medicine. Government should bring anybody suffering from the disease and you will see wonders instead of saying God is the one punishing us with meningitis. Immediately you suspect that you have symptoms of meningitis, please consult us, at least for the first time it will be free of charge.

What do you think should be done to prevent diseases like meningitis?

We must ensure that our environment is clean and highly ventilated. Cleanliness is one of the best ways to prevent it. Cleanliness is the best medicine.

We have to consult (the oracle) to know the cause of the problem. If a person is treated without prior consultation (with the oracle), he is killing himself gradually. But when the person knows the cause of his problem, it will be easy to treat it. If headache was as a result of inadequate sleep, it will be revealed and one will know what to do to cure it and even prevent future occurrence. In view of this, I have always said it that herbal practitioners can cure any disease. I have gone to Osun State House of Assembly to defend the cure for HIV. I told them to give me a patient which they did. I treated the person and he was totally cured. I am not claiming what I cannot do. There are witnesses and evidences. That is why I am a member of the State Action Committee against AIDS. I am still a member of SACA up till today.

Has the government confirmed your claim?

The government and orthodox doctors will dispute it. But if you need the jaw-breaking names of orthodox medicine, you can go to them. (Jeremiah) Abalaka, (a surgeon-turned-immunologist, who claimed to have developed a vaccine for HIV) did the same thing and they rubbished him even when he was still practising as a medical doctor. There is no disease that God has not given us power to cure.

What of cancer?

It depends on the type of cancer. Cancer of the breast is the most dangerous after that of cervix. Breast cancer could be cured with only one leaf. You will just squeeze the leaf and rub the juice on the affected breast and that is the end of the disease. So, we are trying to tell the whole world that in Nigeria, we can do certain things if we are allowed.

But why do you think traditional medicine is being relegated to the background?

It is because orthodox doctors are afraid. When I was in South Korea, orthodox doctors operated along with traditional doctors, under the same roof. It is now left for the patient to choose which one he wants. But in Nigeria, we (orthodox and traditional doctors) are strange bedfellows. They say we are not clean and all that. But this will change if the government can come down low to lift us up just like Governor Rauf Aregbesola is doing with the Board of Traditional Medicine. I have been going around the state to ask our people that any of them with potent medicine should come to the board. It is better they come out; we’ll fine-tune it.

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